Dean Anderson

Tell that to the Natural Law party (TM practicioners) who featured "Yogic Flying" in their Party Political Broadcast...

JoeWallack

JW:
Who exactly were these "the Apostles"? (Do they have Names?)



Joseph

"The central figure of the ancient Egyptian Religion was Osiris, and the chief fundamentals of his cult were the belief in his divinity, death, resurrection, and absolute control of the destinies of the bodies and souls of men. The central point of each Osirian's Religion was his hope of resurrection in a transformed body and of immortality, which could only be realized by him through the death and resurrection of Osiris." - E.A. Wallis Budge

http://www.errancywiki.com/index.php/Main_Page

hallq

>Um, that is called jumping. It is different from flying.

Prove I was just jumping in that photo. (It's what skeptics are expected to do of Christian claims)

Oh, and had you heard of the TM guys before?

cgordon

>The Easter season is nearly here

Yet another holiday stolen from pagans and dressed up ni Xian clothing to pacify the conquered masses and synchronize the new religion with the old. Have a Happy Fertility Celebration!

>1. Jesus died by crucifixion 2,000 years ago.

Really? Outside of Biblical myth, can you point to ANY validated texts supporting this? (Noting that we know all about Eusebius and his ilk).

>2. Jesus was then placed in a tomb.

No Jesus, no tomb. See #1.

>3. A few days later, the tomb was found empty.

See #1.

>4. Soon after, the Apostles began testifying that Jesus had risen from the dead.

See #1.

>5. The Apostles really believed they had seen Jesus alive again.

See #1.

>6. Even opponents and skeptics of Christianity at the time claimed to have seen Jesus alive again, and their lives were transformed as a consequence.

See #1.

>7. Almost all of the Apostles eventually died for their testimony that they had seen the resurrected Jesus.

Largly discredited these days, even among dedicated biblical sholars. See #1.

>8. In the face of brutal persecution, the movement of Christianity grew beyond all reasonable expectation.

Probably not. See #1. Sources, my friend, sources. Wherefrom are you making these claims? Your word alone is simply not sufficient. Sources?

>9. The belief that Jesus was physically raised from the dead was central and foundational to Christianity from the very beginning.

Nope. Do your research. Early Christianity was a mishmash of older mythology, Greek mystery cults and (probably) Kabbalism. Xianity, as a coherent entity probably didn't exist until OCnstantine unified the churches and started using it as a political tool.

>10. The corpse of Jesus has never been produced.

Truly! For there never was one to begin with.

Your biggest fallacy is that anyone but Christians accept that Jesus even existed in the first place.

http://www.doesgodexistanswer.net/
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/
http://www.atheists.org/christianity/didjesusexist.html
http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_jcno.htm
http://www.nobeliefs.com/exist.htm
http://www.infidels.org/library/hist...ally_live.html
http://www.liberator.net/articles/SloanGary/Jesus.html

Answerer

Richbee

Rather a silly notion don't you think, since the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus was timed with Passover.

On the other hand, pagan fertility rites of Spring were timed in different countries when Spring arrived.

LOL!

Richbee

You will enjoy meeting the Apostles starting with..............

Andrew, the brother of Simon Peter, was a Galilean fisherman. Originally from Bethsaida (John 1:44), at the time of the ministry of Jesus, he lived with his brother in a house near the Synagogue in Capernaum (Mark 1:29). Andrew was a follower of John the Baptist (John 1:35-40).

Matthew records that Jesus recruited Andrew and Peter while they were fishing in the Sea of Galilee (Matt 4:18-20). In the account in the Gospel of John (1:35-42), Andrew encounters Jesus first, and then rushes to tell his brother "We have found the Messiah".

Other appearances by Andrew in the New Testament include:

* Andrew was present when Jesus healed the fevered mother-in-law of Peter, and when Jesus began healing people from the house of Andrew and Peter in Capernaum (Mark 1:29-34).

* Andrew was with Peter, James, and John on the Mount of Olives when Jesus gave his sermon on the end times (Mark 13:3).

* Andrew finds the initial “five small barley loaves and two small fish” when Jesus feeds the 5,000 (John 6:8-9)

* Andrew is present with Jesus when a voice from heaven booms "I have glorified it, and will glorify it again." (John 12:20-30)

Meet the Apostles - By Robert Jones

Richbee

Thomas is a favorite of mine!

http://www.sundayschoolcourses.com/a...ain.htm#Thomas

Richbee

You will enjoy meeting all the Apostles:

http://www.sundayschoolcourses.com/a...stolic%20Lists

jackrabbit

It's neither. Levitation. Ask Jean Grey how it works.