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Old 02-14-2012, 02:09 PM   #21
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Not that hard to follow J-D
You think I'm not that hard to follow? Well, it's nice of you to say so, I guess.
You must admit that it is an insult to intelligence to have a dream while sleeping on a rock and then put some oil on it to make holy.
I don't think you get to tell me what I must do.
Well, you likely can't afford to then.
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To bring the wolf image home to John where he made the distinction in John 1:13 between 'begotten not by blood, nor by carnal desire, nor by man's willing it, but by God" to show the difference between 'above and below, and later is identifed with John 6:55 and John 6.66.

In John 21:15 Peter as shepherd is identified with son of John and told to feed the lambs but tend the sheep (and not feed them yourself), and then finally asked him 'do you agape me' and then he said to feed the sheep with love.

In 18 Youth is presented as carefree and sure to make the most of it until 'another' will tie you fast and carry you off against your will, as only a wolf would and could.

And then in 19 he postulates the death of Peter and so the end of faith and said: follow me [with this in mind].

Bottom line: Christians cannot go to Church as there is no faith left to follow.
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You must admit that it is an insult to intelligence to have a dream while sleeping on a rock and then put some oil on it to make holy.
I don't think you get to tell me what I must do.
Well, you likely can't afford to then.
I don't think you'd know what I can and can't afford.
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Oops, did they not coin the word Saint to make him Special and the very first Saint as the cloak of Peter that will overshadow all the Saints to follow where the faith of Peter is the only key to Sainthood?

Notice please that in John 21:19 the 'death to Paul' [as the faith of Peter] glorifies God by the good works that remain. So now we 'die to Paul,' instead of Judas who spilled his guts to bare it all, remember? while here now the secret remains and just the silver is transformed to gold so they can pave the streets in Rome.
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