Deacon Doubtmonger

OK, I admit it: I'm a fat, bald 44-year-old who's too perpetually and terminally out of the hipness loop to know much about the vampire and goth subcultures. Therefore, I can't come up with a smartass response about what xianity as vampire/goth cult, and its rituals, would look like.

Can the more hip among you chime in?

(Mods, feel free to move if need be.)

Evoken

I am not ssure if I understand well but if your question is that if there are Goths who are Christians then my personal answer would be yes(I am one).

But if your question is that if Christianity is or can be associated with drinking blood and stuff like that the answer is no but some people I have seen that they like to use the verse of Leviticus that says The Blood if the life and asociate it with Vampirism.

Not that I drink blood or anything but using the drinking of blood as a symbolic meaning is a sign of a special bond between two persons specially of a different gender.

And besides Goth has nothing to do with drinking blood.

TySixtus

Ever heard of Transubstantiation? It's a belief Catholics (and some other stripes of Christian) hold whereby the bread and wine actually become the Body and Blood of Christ. This is NOT symbolic. When you take communion, you are ingesting the flesh and blood of Jesus. Again, this is not symbolic. It *supposedly* happens every Sunday.

So millions of Catholics become blood drinking cannibals every Sunday.

Ty

Gothic_J

doesnt taste like blood tho. . .

. . .-cough-

Technogeek

“Woah! Is that really the blood of Christ?�
“Yes.�
“Geez, that guy must have been wasted 24-7!�

Ah, Family Guy. You make everything better.

Brother Daniel

Quite right. And this is Conveniently[tm] dealt with by the doctrinal distinction between the "essence" of the stuff (i.e., what it Truly Is[tm]) and the "accidents" of the stuff (i.e., what it appears to be based on taste, smell, feel, mass-spectrometry, etc.). I believe the distinction (in principle) between the "essence" and the "accidents" of matter may go way back to Aristotle. I don't know who first applied the idea to the eucharist - that might have been as late as Aquinas, or as early as Augustine.

Since the RC church has declared it a Mortal Sin[tm] for its members to fail to take the eucharist for a whole week, and the "body" component has to be made of wheat (according to canon law), let us pause in silence to remember the many Catholics with Celiac Disease whose small intestines are subjected to serious damage every week by the "accidents" of the body of Christ.

Face

I'm going to move this to General Religious Discussion (GRD) as it seems to me that those folks will have more to say to expand on this topic.

Face

Josh Adkins

At least they don't use real human beings to act as proxy for their god in their theopagic tendencies like many primeval pagan cults did. So as much as they would like to think that the Real Presence of Jesus is literal it is actually symbolic.

Zeda

It never occured to me until recently just how focused Christiany is focused on blood and human sacrifice. The fact that Christianity worships an object of execution and torture and wears the symbol around thier necks, on thier lapels, and on the walls of thier churches seems sick to me now in hindsight.

At the time I was a Jesus-freak (lol, I was so young ) I actually wore a cross made out of nails on a leather throng around my neck for years. (Hmmm wonder what happened to that?)

And with the recent to-do over Mel's movie, I saw again the focus of this.
One of the best sermons I can remember as a kid, was when our youth pastor preached on the torture of Christ on Easter.

funinspace

It is interesting that most of the Xians dodge the flesh and blood of John, for the more palatable renditions in the other Gospels. The early Xians were charged with cannibalism in their "secret" meetings for their choice of words. Levitican Laws forbade the eating of blood. And of course, with Abraham, human sacrifice was formally denounced, sort of... With Christ it all comes full circle. It is an interesting iteration of practices.

DK