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Old 09-21-2006, 06:44 AM   #1
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Default How could Jesus have been Jewish if he was conceived by the Holy Spirit?

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Because the holy spirit is Jewish. Duh.

Actually, I have an idea of what a Christian might say to this:

Now, when god impregnated Mary, he isn't physical, so obviously, he had to either create sperm inside of Mary or change one of Mary's eggs so that it had all of the necessary genetic material.

So, god simply chose alleles that are typical of a Jewish man. So if Jesus had all Jew-genes, who's to say he wasn't Jewish?
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I believe one is considered Jewish if their mother is/was Jewish. IE: It's passed maternally, not paternally.
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That's correct. According to Jewish law, a person is born Jewish if and only if their mother is Jewish. The father has nothing to do with it.
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LadyShea and ZikZak seem to me to have this question well and satifactorily answered.

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wow, that's a first... a womans power / status trumping those of the christian god.
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Greetings all,

Yes,
modern Jews trace Jewishness through the mother.

No,
ancient Jews did not (have a look at the genealogies - all male, with some rare exceptions.)


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Yes,
modern Jews trace Jewishness through the mother.

No,
ancient Jews did not (have a look at the genealogies - all male, with some rare exceptions.)
IIRC, the switch to a matrilineal system dates back to the 2nd century CE.

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Yes,
modern Jews trace Jewishness through the mother.

No,
ancient Jews did not (have a look at the genealogies - all male, with some rare exceptions.)
IIRC, the switch to a matrilineal system dates back to the 2nd century CE.

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I'm pretty sure that's correct. The Mishnah in any case contains the earliest unequivocal confirmation of the practice. Then there's the question of whether Acts 16:1ff. indicate its existence even as far back as century I.

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I haven't seen Jews suggest that there is any problem with the Jewish identity of Jesus. What they do say, however, is that Jesus couldn't have had Davidic lineage, because that kind of thing goes ONLY through the biological father. This is used as an argument that Jesus couldn't have been the Messiah.
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