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Old 03-15-2010, 03:31 AM   #181
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Make that 03.24 picoseconds.
See the Annotated Justinian Code online
And the Theodosian Code.

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William Rosen, a historian of Justinian times, writes of this code that it contained, in effect by royal decree, fictional precedents to 'justify' the legal revisions. A classic case of ancient forgery and manufacturing of narratives for political (in this case legal) purposes. (Ancient Forgeries -- by lawful decree)
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Eusebius, like other church fathers are exactly that. B/S artists that today would be qualified to sell life insurance.
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Jesus was also called the Son of God.

Jesus in the NT was a God/man.
You know the meaning of son of god for a Jew, don't you?

Or are you still thinking like a christian...

And you are confusing the gospels and the rest of the nt... like any other christian.
Christians think Jesus did exist.

I don't.

If you think Jesus existed then you may be thinking like a christian.
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Jesus was also called the Son of God.

Jesus in the NT was a God/man.
You know the meaning of son of god for a Jew, don't you?

But the New testament was not written for Jews but Graeco-Romans of the Roman empire -- the authors and all the preservers of the auhorship all wrote in the Greek language, not Hebrew etc. The meaning of the term "son of God" was obviously therefore to be addressed to the mind of those to whom the new testament was beinbg addressed. The audience was Graeco-Roman, and the conceptual meaning therefore of the "Son of God" was within the Graeco-Roman context. Asclepius, the healing god of the Roman Empire for the epoch from perhaps as early as 300 BCE to the year 324 CE was the son of the god Apollo, who was in turn the son of the god Zeus.

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The New testament was written for "Gentiles" not "Christians". There were no Christians and the authors of the NT and their close followers were attempting to convert and/or entice new converts to their newly established ideals. The new testament was new, and those who were to think about it were historically "gentiles".
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If you think Jesus existed then you may be thinking like a christian.
Or a hard core atheist who believes his christian-educated history teacher
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Most bible scholars start their research with the default been that Jesus existed in history. Before the first World war there was substantial scholarship that proved otherwise. Since then only a few brave men have veered off that road in the last decade or so. Men such as Earl Doherty, R M Price,[although this Price doesn't explicitly state that Jesus is pure myth] Richard Carrier, R. G. Price, G. A. Wells amongst others who make a compelling case for the non-historical case.
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