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Chili · 04-02-2013, 09:57 AM

And Duvduv, to return to this evangelistic rally-tent event where the innocent believer is sucked into going forward to expose himself: "confess your sins and you will be saved" [in famous Billy Graham style], just go to Mary 's canticle and there read that she stayed with Elizabeth for 3 months to show that his search for meaning was persistent to this Joseph here, because to him, Nazareth was real where Mary was from, now entertaining him with memories of good times as a child to make it melancholic to give the 'river of life' as chance to rise from way back East when he was still a child (Gen.2:14 here that flows into the Eu-phratis (bright mind), and notice that it just flows all on its own like a living water well.

This so makes his melancholy persistent, as I said, that was popular back then to be a well known Image of expression in the arts that is unheard of today. Opposite to this are we now looking for ruins of temples and temple-tramps without a job for them: "the bastards," they than say.

"Annunciation" the efficient cause set in motion and is crucial to nurse the child born out of innocence, but also from a heart of gold. This makes them very vulnerable as sheep inside the flock to be protected by the shepherd so the good shepherd will find them on his own.

Billy Graham knew this too and would never organize an evangelist rally without the Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur of the local Catholic Bishop that he made known in his Advertisements so they also would attend. So Billy knew that he was doing but never really knew what he was doing as if his only ambition was to get them done, as in one by each to make it stick.

So there is a difference between us, but the topic is the same.

Duvduv · 04-02-2013, 06:47 PM

Hello, Stephan. You must have missed my posting below:

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Originally Posted by Duvduv

Stephan, since you know a Samaritan, what do they claim about the history of their worship at Gerizim? If they stopped at the time of Hyrcanus or Shimon the Righteous, when did they start again?
Did they never worship there at all from the time of Hyrcanus through Byzantine times? In fact, wasn't there some kind of structure there in the second century C.E.?

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Originally Posted by Duvduv

So you mean to say that the Christian empire did not prohibit worship at Gerizim because the Samaritans had not worshiped there since the time of John Hyrcanus?

stephan huller · 04-06-2013, 05:53 PM

I just noticed this significant variant in Irenaeus's gospel which I don't think has been noticed before:

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For this reason, too, did the Lord Himself read at Capernaum the prophecies of Isaiah: "The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, because He hath anointed Me; to preach the Gospel to the poor hath He sent Me, to heal the broken-hearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and sight to the blind." At the same time, showing that it was He Himself who had been foretold by Esaias the prophet, He said to them: "This day is this Scripture fulfilled in your ears."[Irenaeus Against Heresies 4.23.1]

This is deeply significant in light of Ephrem's criticism of the Marcionite 'erasure' of Nazareth for Bethsaida.

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Chili Banned Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Alberta Posts: 11,885	And Duvduv, to return to this evangelistic rally-tent event where the innocent believer is sucked into going forward to expose himself: "confess your sins and you will be saved" [in famous Billy Graham style], just go to Mary 's canticle and there read that she stayed with Elizabeth for 3 months to show that his search for meaning was persistent to this Joseph here, because to him, Nazareth was real where Mary was from, now entertaining him with memories of good times as a child to make it melancholic to give the 'river of life' as chance to rise from way back East when he was still a child (Gen.2:14 here that flows into the Eu-phratis (bright mind), and notice that it just flows all on its own like a living water well. This so makes his melancholy persistent, as I said, that was popular back then to be a well known Image of expression in the arts that is unheard of today. Opposite to this are we now looking for ruins of temples and temple-tramps without a job for them: "the bastards," they than say. "Annunciation" the efficient cause set in motion and is crucial to nurse the child born out of innocence, but also from a heart of gold. This makes them very vulnerable as sheep inside the flock to be protected by the shepherd so the good shepherd will find them on his own. Billy Graham knew this too and would never organize an evangelist rally without the Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur of the local Catholic Bishop that he made known in his Advertisements so they also would attend. So Billy knew that he was doing but never really knew what he was doing as if his only ambition was to get them done, as in one by each to make it stick. So there is a difference between us, but the topic is the same.

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