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Excuse me, but for the benefit of the lurkers, could you just post the relevant text supporting your claim relevance of this tale to the issue of Historical/Mythical Junior and explain how its relevant?
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So what we have here is a crucifixion scene that looks a bit like the one in the gospels--although not anywhere near Jerusalem--that was written roughly around the time of Jesus, so now we are all getting excited. Is that about it?
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FWIW Bowersock in Fiction as History (or via: amazon.co.uk) argues that Petronius was influenced in the Satyricon by knowledge of the Jesus story.
(IMVHO this is unlikely but Bowersock makes an interesting case) Andrew Criddle |
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*Not uncommon for thieves to be crucified, it was the nomal means of execution for such. *Any death penalty required a high official such as a provincial governor to impose it. *Vaults are not uncommon near cemeteries. Cemeteries were often used as sites of execution. *Pretty typical to have a guard about at a crucifixion site, as noted in the text, to prevent relatives and friends from taking the bodies, the purpose of crucifixion was to instill fear in potential criminals so the body was to be left for a long time to instill as much fear as possible. Relatives and friends would want a proper burial which was typically prohibited for crucifixions as a way of striking beyond death. *oh my! |
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Was it common for mere thieves to be crucified? I thought that crucifixion was more likely for rebels and insurrectionists (although some of them might have been referred to as "bandits.")
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