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Old 04-12-2013, 05:39 PM   #11
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The Christian church did write the gospels, or at least Christians did.
proto christians at best :huh:
Who thinks that Mark was not a Christian?
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Who thinks Mark wrote the Gospel according to Mark?
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While Luke, Matthew and John have dubious connections to the gospels that bear their names, Mark is a distinct possibility for being the author of the gospel that bears his name.

But that's not the real issue. Do you think that whoever wrote the gospel according to Mark was not a Christian? What was he?
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No not necessarily. This is a claim (for which we have little or no physical evidence) made by the so-called "early church" who, at least when their history was written, had physical possession of the canonical manuscripts.

Logically this claim may be true or it may be false.

I for one reject the notion that this claim is necessarily true.

Let the assessment and investigation of this claim continue ....





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That is a possibility that should not go unexplored.


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He could have been a sponsored literary contractor.





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But that's not the real issue. Do you think that whoever wrote the gospel according to Mark was not a Christian? What was he?

A Hellenistic Proselyte of Judaism.


In this time they are often reffered to as Jewish Christians.

I like proto-christians more so, because many of these people were probably Proselytes to Judaism
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There is absolutely no corroborative evidence whatsoever from antiquity that the author of the story in the short-ending gMark was a member of a Jesus cult, intended to start a new religion, or wanted people of antiquity to start a new religion.

The Gospel in the story by the author of the short ending gMark was that the Kingdom of God was at Hand.

In gMark, Jesus did NOT preach he was Christ, the Lamb of God, who would be sacrificied for the Sins of all mankind.

In gMark Jesus merely preached the Gospel--the Good News--the Kingdom of God is at hand.

The very same thing is found in the book of Daniel.

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13 I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

14 And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away , and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed .
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......Again the chief priest asked him and said to him: Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?

62 And Jesus said: I am; and you shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of Power, and coming with the clouds of heaven.
The author of the short gMark was not starting a new religion.

It was the very opposite.

The author appears to have believed the world was coming to an end.

The author appears to believe that Jesus would come for the ELECT.

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24 But in those days after that affliction the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light,

25 And the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers which are in the heavens shall be shaken.

26 And then shall they see the Son of man coming in clouds with great power and glory.

27 And then shall he send the angels and gather the elect from the four winds, from the end of earth to the end of heaven.
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