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Old 10-25-2007, 03:54 PM   #31
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The description 'evangelical style Protestantism' would stimulate less suspicion of bias. But as there is no allusion made to any 'style' or species of Christians, I assume that the poster has concluded that anti-Semitism is not an evangelical problem, though it is for others.

Btw, the evangelical 'tradition' traces its roots to the early church, but also to Wycliffe, who well predates any Protestant denomination.
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Hmm. I think it is quite well known that the modern evangelicals (at least since the rise of dispensationalism) are less anti-semitic than most other Christians (until recent times at least)
That sounds like pure fantasising.
Coming from someone who believes that the evangelical tradition goes back to the early church, that is a bit rich. Do you also believe what the freemasons tell you about their origins? Talk about fantasising. Have you never heard of Darby and dispensationalism and the effect it has had on modern rapture-believing pre-trib evangelical Christianity and its relations to the Jews?

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although many would consider "running missions to Jews" a manifestation of anti-semitism.
People desperate for ammunition in fighting Christianity probably would.
Personally I don't particularly see such missions to Jews as anti-semitic, but you gave "running missions to Jews" as evidence of that Christians did not blame the Jews for the death of Christ, which is pure nonsense. Preaching to the Jews and believing that they are descended from "Christ-Killers" has always been perfectly compatible to many Christians.

This is btw why I still think you mean Evangelicals, when you say "Christians", because I am not aware of such "missions to the Jews" from other Christian groupings.

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I am not sure what Wycliff's record is regarding the Jews, but Luther for one was not too friendly
Yawn.
Sorry if it is boring you, but you started with the irrelevancy of talking about Wycliff. BTW. you should take a look at what Luther said about the Jews. Quite juicy stuff. Or is he not Christian enough for you?

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Unfortunately not. I speak only from personal experience, as I said.
It does not seem likely that the lady concerned can have had this in mind, then.
Not these instances of course. What she had in mind were the pogroms that used to follow the passion plays.
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