Chili

Interesting history and still good business I think if it ended those torturous [mass] crucifixions at the end of the yellow brick road.

Littlejohn

Sorry, but in which sense do you think Paul was a fraud?.

I mean, do you think that this character never existed, or you think he was a different person from that one proposed by Catholic clergy about 19 centuries ago? ..

Who said that "apostle Peter" was a fictitious character?... And why?..

".. None of the above can be corroborate by any external historical source of antiquity. .."

There are many people mentioned by Josephus, such as Saul and his brother Costobarus, which were not mentioned by any other writer of antiquity ... What can we deduce from this that these characters never existed? ...

Why Justin had to worry about proving the historicity of Jesus when in his day nobody doubt the past existence of Jesus and his human life? ..

Over 70 Gnostic sects, born around charismatic figure of the Gnostic teacher Jesus of Nazareth, widely attested it! .. Then there were the rabbis who provided a different version by Jesus of the 'faith' and his mother. If Jesus had never existed that sense had it to do this? ...

Greetings

Littlejohn


NOTE: the Romans NEVER knew the Nazarene with the pseudo-name 'Jesous', a simple attribute meaning 'healer', but with a different name than that one official (of registry office) and, above all, with a different attribute: namely 'CHRESTOS'! (see Suetonius). The passage of paragraph 44 of the fifteenth book of Tacitus' Annales is fake just because there you talk about 'Christus' and is therefore clear that Tacitus could not absolutly have written that!

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aa5874

The writer under the name of Paul is a FRAUD who claimed he was in a basket by the wall in Damascus in the time of Aretas, that he persecuted the Church, that he NOW preached the faith he once destroyed, that he stayed with the apostle Peter for fifteen days and that he SAW Jesus AFTER he was raised from the dead.

1.Peter was in the arms of Jesus when he was walking water. Total fiction

2. Peter saw Jesus transfigure. Total fiction.

3. Peter saw Jesus after he was raised from the dead. Total fiction.

4. Peter saw Jesus ascend through the clouds. Total fiction.

5. Peter became bilingual on the day of Pentecost with something like fire on his head. Total fiction.

And you ask why is Peter a fictitious character.

I am not trying to find Saul and his brother Costobarus. And even if they did or did not exist I would still have to look for Jesus of Nazareth.

I am dealing with the non-existence of Jesus right now.

You don't know what you are talking about.

Marcion, the Marcionites, and ALL Docetist claimed Jesus was NOT human.

And Justin's Jesus was just like the MYTHS of the Greeks.

"First Apology" XXI And this is Trypho telling Justin of his near IMPOSSIBLE task Even Justin himself DOUBTED that Jesus was a man. Justin's Jesus was the Offspring of a Ghost of God and a Virgin, a God who became man.

In the days of Justin people of antiquity did DOUBT that Jesus did EXIST as described.

In the days of Justin Jews did DOUBT that there was a Messiah in the time of Pilate name Jesus.

mountainman

But the business of death and destruction did not end, it was just legalised by the Nicaean Oath in the name of the ahem Holy Roman Christian Church. The literature tendered by the publishers at that epoch has been perceived to be riddled with instances of historical fraud. The controversies which ensued, including the Arian Controversy started with controversies over the Nicaean Agreement at the precise time when the Publisher of the Bible was VICTOROUS in WAR. There is a wall of swords surrounding the opening of the [WAR] Council of Nicaea says Eusebius. The historical facts seem to suggest that the 318 (?) Nicaean attendees, as cited by Robin Lane-Fox, were subject to military duress. That is -- they were intimidated by swords. They were coerced to agree with the Pontifex Maximus. They had no choice.

The history of the 4th century sees a procession of military minded mafia thugs and malevolent despots, murderors and terrorist bosses running Rome and Alexandria. The City of Constantine rises to dominance as people are bribed to relocate and follow the Pontifex Maximus. The fourth century is widely recognised by classical scholars as a century of christian persecution and intolerance.