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Old 10-07-2008, 07:01 AM   #11
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I am a little confused as to what sect of Christianity worships the Bible?
The Protestant reformers who discarded Church tradition and ritual in favour of faith, grace and scripture. The Bible itself became an object of veneration, leading to the doctrine of inerrancy (not unlike later Popes).

Since the vernacular translations became available we have seen a mushrooming of variant interpretations, culminating in 20th C Fundamentalism, the most primitive reading of the text. This was a reaction to liberal scholarship in the 19th C that was dismantling traditional interpretations of scripture through scientific analysis.

Now the text is the final authority, against which every other piece of knowledge must be weighed, such as in the evolution, Creationist and millenialist arguments.
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Well, obviously, none does literally.

However, any supposition that to question anything in it is tantamount to questioning God himself gets pretty close to biblioatry, it seems to me. Referring to that supposition as "worshipping the Bible" then becomes an acceptable hyperbole, one might think.
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Well, obviously, none does literally.

However, any supposition that to question anything in it is tantamount to questioning God himself gets pretty close to biblioatry, it seems to me. Referring to that supposition as "worshipping the Bible" then becomes an acceptable hyperbole, one might think.
thanks Doug, yes I'm being hyperbolic, I was an apologist myself once upon a time
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I am a little confused as to what sect of Christianity worships the Bible?
This may be an argument over semantics, but almost all Christians believe the Bible to be inspired by God and therefore "special" in a way no other book(s) in history can lay claim to. Many also react in an extremely strong manner if the Bible is mistreated physically, or referred to derisively. Christians might also think you a bit nutty if you took the Koran and used it as toilet paper; they would react far more strongly if you did the same with the Bible. And until the Enlightenment many critics were censored, imprisoned or even executed for questioning any part of the Bible. Aren't these reactions really just an indication of worship?
Does reverence always equal worship?

A secularist may be offended by torture of kittens. Does that make them worshippers of kittens?
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A secularist may be offended by torture of kittens. Does that make them worshippers of kittens?
In some cases, yes, but generally no. You can be offended by the torture of people without worshipping those people.

Bibliolators have more than mere reverence for the Bible. They elevate it above their personal experience. They take offense if it is criticized. They look for answers in it.
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I am a little confused as to what sect of Christianity worships the Bible?
This may be an argument over semantics, but almost all Christians believe the Bible to be inspired by God and therefore "special" in a way no other book(s) in history can lay claim to. Many also react in an extremely strong manner if the Bible is mistreated physically, or referred to derisively. Christians might also think you a bit nutty if you took the Koran and used it as toilet paper; they would react far more strongly if you did the same with the Bible. And until the Enlightenment many critics were censored, imprisoned or even executed for questioning any part of the Bible. Aren't these reactions really just an indication of worship?
There are at least two reasons for studying the Bible: one is that it is part of our Western cultural heritage, and second as part of the general history of the ancient Near East and Mediterranean world.

Worshipping any human artifact is wrong imo. Fundamentalists have been reduced to this because they have rejected virtually everything else in the fifteen hundred year-old Christian tradition. It's a last-ditch defense against science and modernism.
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All I really wanted to put forth was that worship of an inanimate object, in my mind, implies a degree of superstitious animism, and lacking that, the term "worship" seems misplaced.

As an example of that superstitious animism in literature and legend, I offer the idea that Vampires are destroyed by holy water, as if that water posesses some sort of supernatural spirit, or even that a werrewolf is only slain by a silver bullet, even in the absence of any theological overtones (as if the substance silver has some sort of alchemical animism).
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This may be an argument over semantics, but almost all Christians believe the Bible to be inspired by God and therefore "special" in a way no other book(s) in history can lay claim to. Many also react in an extremely strong manner if the Bible is mistreated physically, or referred to derisively. Christians might also think you a bit nutty if you took the Koran and used it as toilet paper; they would react far more strongly if you did the same with the Bible. And until the Enlightenment many critics were censored, imprisoned or even executed for questioning any part of the Bible. Aren't these reactions really just an indication of worship?
Does reverence always equal worship?

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A poor analogy. A kitten is a living thing that feels pain. The Bible is an inanimate object.
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A secularist may be offended by torture of kittens. Does that make them worshippers of kittens?
A poor analogy. A kitten is a living thing that feels pain. The Bible is an inanimate object.
I fail to see how that makes any difference, but in the interest of staying on course...

... how about a patriot offended at desecration of a nationalist icon, say a flag or a coat of arms?

All I'm saying is that "worship" might not be the best word.
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I'm arguing that it's a fine line between 'reverence' and 'worship'. Christians being 'offended' by the desecration of a Bible I can understand; imprisonment and execution border on worship.

To clarify my point, some Christians engage in idolatry when they react so violently to criticism of their 'holy' book. Would an Edward Gibbon fan want to throw someone in jail for deriding The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire?
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