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Old 05-30-2010, 09:32 AM   #71
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I have no idea how many ahistoricists go for that hypothesis. I know that Doherty's dating, last I heard, is only somewhat later than the consensus dating. My own suspicion is that the documents as we now have them are from the early second century, though an early version of Mark might go back to the late first.
This is a key point that tends to get lost in these discussions. When we are discussing the dating of texts, we are discussing the dating of the texts as we know them. The dating does not apply to possible earlier versions that we don't have access to and have no way of knowing the content therein.
Yes, and its a key point worth repeating and repeating....
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And I'll ask you a question I've asked before but you haven't answered: why do so many scholars -- even atheist scholars -- believe in a HJ?
The vast majority of those scholars are Christians who work in Christian organisations, whose work and reputation depends on believing.

The rest of them just follow the others.


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