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Old 12-11-2001, 03:36 PM   #1
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Question Biblical Plagiarism

Can anyone give me some specific examples of stories in the Old Testament that were based on or stolen from other myths/legends?
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Old 12-11-2001, 03:48 PM   #2
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all of them!

creating man from clay- Babylon/Sumer 'Atrahasis'
creating the cosmos from Chaos-Babylon 'Enuma Elish'
The Flood Story-Sumer/Babylon 'Epic of Gilgamesh'
The Tower of Babel- Sumer 'Enmakar and the Gods of Aratta' (unsure of spelling)
Man gets cheated out of eternal life- Epic of Gilgamesh

Good book "The Chaldean Genesis" by George Smith (I think) or "Myths of Mesopotamia" Stephany Dalley

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Old 12-11-2001, 03:55 PM   #3
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Thanks marduck

I've also heard that the 10 Commandments are based on the Code of Hammurabi(sp?) Anyone know if that's true?
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Old 12-11-2001, 04:41 PM   #4
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Psalm 104 seems strongly influence by the Hymn to the Aten.
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Old 12-11-2001, 05:47 PM   #5
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Offa snipping;

Aton made the Nile in Egypt and rain, like a heavenly Nile,
in foreign countries. He has a million forms according to
the time of day and from where he is seen; yet he is always
the same. . ." The only person who knows and comprehends
the god fully is said to be Akhenaton, together with his
wife, Nefertiti. The hymn to the Aton has been compared in
imagery to Psalm 104 ("Bless the Lord, O my soul").

Hey, I was curious so I started searching.

Thank-you Apikorus;

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Old 12-11-2001, 06:19 PM   #6
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The best book that I have seen on the subject of Biblical plagiarism is Gerald A. Larue's <a href="http://shopping.yahoo.com/shop?d=b&id=2892769&cf=1&clink=dmpr-hm/rp" target="_blank">Ancient Myth and Modern Life</a>. Larue has made a life-long study of ancient sources of Biblical mythology. I can't recommend him too highly.
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Old 12-11-2001, 08:26 PM   #7
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The 10C's are the beginning of a big law code; some of it is apparently an imitation of Mesopotamian law codes like Hammurabi's.
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Old 12-12-2001, 10:44 AM   #8
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Marduck forgot to include how Moses being sent in the basket was taken from the Sumerian king Sargon.

<a href="http://www.piney.com/BabSarAgade.html" target="_blank">Sargon</a>
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Old 12-12-2001, 03:09 PM   #9
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I also forgot to mention that the 10 C's are very similar to the 24 Confessions to Osiris from the Pyramid Text, 2500 BC. Code of Hamurabi is around 1750 BC.
Also the story of the bad god starting a war with the good god over control of the Earth is from Sumer also, 'The Epic of Zu'
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Old 12-12-2001, 03:58 PM   #10
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egads! Marduck may have made a mistake!

The Tower of Babel- Sumer 'Enmakar and the Gods of Aratta'

This may be the 'Job' story. I'm not 100% certain.
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