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Old 03-20-2001, 12:18 PM   #41
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"In fact, the meticulous Roman records of execution don't mention Jesus at all."

Prove it. How many Roman records, for example, do we have reporting who Pilate executed?
 
Old 03-20-2001, 12:18 PM   #42
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I'll probably have to restate this several times (especially since thumpers automatically evade the issues by never acquiescing to a request), but until the hypothesis has been thoroughly supported to the very best of everyone's ability, please do not post negative analysis or present negative evidence yet.

If you can not respect that request, then please do not post anything at all.

Thank you.
 
Old 03-20-2001, 12:22 PM   #43
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi:
I'll probably have to restate this several times (especially since thumpers automatically evade the issues by never acquiescing to a request), but until the hypothesis has been thoroughly supported to the very best of everyone's ability, please do not post negative analysis or present negative evidence yet.

If you can not respect that request, then please do not post anything at all.

Thank you.
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Then we will be waiting an eternity. There is no evidence to support your theory.
 
Old 03-20-2001, 12:22 PM   #44
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Layman:
If your only response is that it was all fiction, then there is no reasoning with you. Rather than discuss the evidence, you refuse to even examine it.</font>
Pointless evasion. Please do not post anything further if you do not accept the simple fact that the Bible is a collection of myths.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">I'm learning more and more that for all of their self-hype, skeptics are just cowards. </font>
Childish, erroneous and just fuckin' stupid. Please do not post anything further in this room.

 
Old 03-20-2001, 12:32 PM   #45
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LOL.

Me: I'm learning more and more that for all of their self-hype, skeptics are just cowards."


You: Childish, erroneous and just fuckin' stupid. Please do not post anything further in this room."

Me again:

You are right. You are no coward. It's not like you don't want to hear other opinions or evidence, because that would be cowardly.
 
Old 03-20-2001, 12:36 PM   #46
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Layman:
Then lets talk about the letters of Paul. They are not fictional accounts sold for profit, at least 7 are accepted by the scholarly community as genuinely written by Paul to several early Christian churches. Paul talks about his past life as a persecutor of Christians, something his audience is familiar with, as well as his meetings with Peter, John, and James.

Now, on what basis do you compare Paul's letters to Huckleberry Finn?


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Well, it could be said about Huckleberry Finn that during that time period many other people of the time saw and wrote about Gambling Boats on the Mississippi, and also that black people were in large part slaves.
Does that make you believe in the story?

If you pick one fact that has corroborating support, you can't automatically let every other statement in the book inherit that credibility. Each must have its own merit, and if you do claim that this is evidence of its validity, then you should also be prepared to discard the entire book when a single contradiction or obviously wrong statement occurs. Having read the gospels, I don't think you are ready to do that.

 
Old 03-20-2001, 12:39 PM   #47
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dmvprof:
Well, it could be said about Huckleberry Finn that during that time period many other people of the time saw and wrote about Gambling Boats on the Mississippi, and also that black people were in large part slaves.
Does that make you believe in the story?

If you pick one fact that has corroborating support, you can't automatically let every other statement in the book inherit that credibility. Each must have its own merit, and if you do claim that this is evidence of its validity, then you should also be prepared to discard the entire book when a single contradiction or obviously wrong statement occurs. Having read the gospels, I don't think you are ready to do that.
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You said you were no coward. You asked me to pick something out to discuss specifically. I did. You completely failed to even mention Paul or his letters.

Care to try again?
 
Old 03-20-2001, 02:20 PM   #48
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I will ask you politely once again not to throw this room off-topic.

If you are not capable of respecting my request, then I'll have you removed. I would rather that not be the case.

Now, are you going to be an adult or a child? Just asking so that neither of us have to waste any more time.
 
Old 03-20-2001, 02:23 PM   #49
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Koyaanisqatsi:
I will ask you politely once again not to throw this room off-topic.

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You asked politely. "Childish, erroneous and just fuckin' stupid. Please do not post anything further in this room."

You have made me curious though. Do you really have the authority to force me out of your thread? Is there a list of rules online that I should check out?
 
Old 03-20-2001, 06:33 PM   #50
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Koy:
If you do have the authority to have Layman removed, you'll have to have me removed also. I am an atheist, but have great respect for Layman and his scholarly abilities. I think it would be wrong to censor him and think it would be a cowardly thing to do. If you don't like what he's posting, ignore him. You have offered no evidence for any of your theories and the only thing even keeping this thread alive are your critics. This isn't the Secular Support forum and Layman is doing nothing out of line. You can't just start a thread and set up rules for the type of responses that are allowed.

BTW: Your theory has no merit whatsoever in the terms which you have framed it. You seem to realize this since you offer no support for it, merely asking others to do your work for you.
 
 

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