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Old 04-26-2001, 06:41 PM   #1
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Hello everyone, I just would like to know if anyone know approx when Roman crucifixion started. A book or article on the web would be a bonus. Thank You

 
Old 04-28-2001, 05:52 PM   #2
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I looked briefly on my bookshelf and could not find a reference. I know I have read about Roman crucifixion before. I would like to find out more, Especially about dates. I hope an infidel can enlighten me (us).

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Noble:
Hello everyone, I just would like to know if anyone know approx when Roman crucifixion started. A book or article on the web would be a bonus. Thank You

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According to Encyclopaedia Britannica 2001, the use of crucifixion as a form of capital punishment was practiced in Rome beginning around the 6th century BCE.

The Oxford Companion to the Bible states the following: "According to ancient historians such as Herodotus and Diodorus Siculus, various kinds of crucifixion...were used by the Assyrians, Scythians, Phoenicians, and Persians. The practice of crucifixion was taken over by Alexander the Great and his successors, and especially by the Romans..."

Since Alexander died on June 13, 323 BCE, the above sources are discrepant. Take the one you like.

rodahi

 
Old 04-28-2001, 09:39 PM   #4
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I use the Encyplopedia Britainca quite a bit. But I have the knowledge that it is an exclusive Catholic source, and, thus, is quite rudimentary, period. It is unreliable.

Thanks, Offa

P.S. Please do not use www.eb.com as a source.
 
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rodahi:
Since Alexander died on June 13, 323 BCE, the above sources are discrepant. Take the one you like.</font>
How are they discrepant?
 
Old 04-29-2001, 05:36 AM   #6
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by offa:
I use the Encyplopedia Britainca quite a bit. But I have the knowledge that it is an exclusive Catholic source, and, thus, is quite rudimentary, period. It is unreliable.

Thanks, Offa

P.S. Please do not use www.eb.com as a source.
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I don't KNOW if Encyclopaedia Britannica 2001 is "unreliable" or not, but it IS a source. Until someone posts something more definitive, then I see no reason to doubt it.

rodahi



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Originally posted by rodahi:
Since Alexander died on June 13, 323 BCE, the above sources are discrepant. Take the one you like.</font>
How are they discrepant?
Look at the quotes again. One gives a date of 6th century BCE, and the other implies a date around or AFTER the time of Alexander the Great. Since Alexander died in the 4th century BCE, the sources are discrepant by two hundred years.

rodahi
 
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The www.eb.com is an excellent source. It becomes bias as far as the Catholic religion. When I wrote that it is unreliable I was meaning, watch out for the bias. Try to find the date of Augustus Caesar's census. It happened in A.D. 6. I could not find it using E.B. King Herod died in 4 b.c.e. and the birth of Jesus was 2 years prior. You can not find this stuff in E.B. because of bias.

thanks, offa

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Old 04-29-2001, 10:10 PM   #10
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by rodahi:
Look at the quotes again. One gives a date of 6th century BCE, and the other implies a date around or AFTER the time of Alexander the Great. Since Alexander died in the 4th century BCE, the sources are discrepant by two hundred years.

rodahi</font>
I thought that was what you were thinking, but I decided to give you the benefit of doubt.
Shall we look more closely?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The Oxford Companion to the Bible states the following: "According to ancient historians such as Herodotus and Diodorus Siculus, various kinds of crucifixion...were used by the Assyrians, Scythians, Phoenicians, and Persians. The practice of crucifixion was taken over by Alexander the Great and his successors, and especially by the Romans..."</font>
For Alexander to be able to 'take over' the practice it must have been around before he was. Thus we can definitely say that the practice of crucifixion predates Alexander, meaning there is no conflict of information.
 
 

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