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Old 10-26-2001, 07:26 PM   #1
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Cool The Strangest verse in the Gospels

Here it is..the strangest verse in the Gospels. Matthew 28:17...this comes after the resurrection.

"And when they saw him, they worshipped him; but some still doubted."

....doubted...did you say..doubted...


This is incredible.
Incredible that it appears at all in the New Testament.
More incredible that some of his followers doubted what...?

His resurrection, or that it was him.

Ya got give credit to Matthew...he would have made a great cub reporter.. )
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Old 10-26-2001, 07:31 PM   #2
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C'mon, that's my point!!! I've already asked that question...how could they doubt when they saw him...?

If you didn't know I said it already then I forgive you

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Old 10-26-2001, 07:54 PM   #3
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If even they doubted, how are we supposed to be sure?
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Old 10-26-2001, 08:08 PM   #4
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Helen, forgive me..I was unaware that you spotted and made a point of it earlier...
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Old 10-26-2001, 09:13 PM   #5
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Originally posted by Storm and Stress:
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"And when they saw him, they worshipped him; but some still doubted." </STRONG>
Not so strange OR incredible. Some (or most)fell down on their knees in worship. Others, seeing the first group kneeling, fell down as well so as not to appear too uncool during the whole thing. Then after a bit of reflection, the second group kind of felt dumb and began to have second thoughts.

Hey, it's right there in the text if you read it correctly!!!!!!
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Old 10-27-2001, 06:01 AM   #6
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<STRONG>Here it is..the strangest verse in the Gospels. Matthew 28:17...this comes after the resurrection.

"And when they saw him, they worshipped him; but some still doubted."

....doubted...did you say..doubted...


This is incredible.
Incredible that it appears at all in the New Testament.
More incredible that some of his followers doubted what...?

His resurrection, or that it was him.

Ya got give credit to Matthew...he would have made a great cub reporter.. )</STRONG>
You must be reading that from a poor translation because "when they saw him those who had entertained doubts fell down in homage." This had to be true because Jesus had been given full authority in heaven and on earth. This means that, when knowledge frees all doubt is removed.

Amos

Ps. My advise is not to read the bible until you can write your own gospel. It is much easier to catch translation errors that way.

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Old 10-27-2001, 06:11 AM   #7
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<STRONG>Helen, forgive me..I was unaware that you spotted and made a point of it earlier...</STRONG>
Oh, that's ok...who knows where I said it...I don't even know whether it was on Sec Web...

As long as you didn't knowingly plagiarize me...

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Old 10-27-2001, 06:15 AM   #8
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<STRONG>You must be reading that from a poor translation because "when they saw him those who had entertained doubts fell down in homage."</STRONG>
Honestly Amos, with all due respect I think that is not what it says at all...

My guess is that the only Bible translations that say that are the ones which put 'forcing a right answer no matter what' above 'true to the original text'.

I mean, that do so in such an egregious way that even the Christians would object

(Because sometimes I don't think the Christians notice... )

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Old 10-27-2001, 11:51 AM   #9
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Amos, the translation I used was the NIV.
I did however, check the KJV..which has Matthew 28:17

When they saw him, they worshipped him: but some doubted.

If your spin on this verse is correct...and it might be..why not word it better. Why not remove the confusion. I have come to the conclusion that the men who edited, chose what books would be in there, and translated the Bible more often than not had hidden agendas and were poor translators as well.
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Old 10-27-2001, 02:14 PM   #10
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Oh. I thought this thread would be a series of nominations.

In case it turns into one, I'd like to mention John 11:39, which includes, in part, "By this time he stinketh." Which just sounds strange (though not unexpected, since we're talking about a 4-days dead corpse).
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