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Old 03-30-2001, 01:12 PM   #21
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by lpetrich:
Hippocrates, was remarkably rational when he pointed out that epilepsy is called the disease of the Gods because nobody really knows what causes it.</font>
And remarkably prescient, if it is true that the neurological sources of epilepsy and religious belief can be located in the same region of the human brain.
 
Old 04-10-2001, 04:20 PM   #22
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Ip, I'd advise you to READ a biography of Lewis before you determine that he was religiously indifferent. First off, to be an atheist does not require one to care about religion (or does it and atheism is simply a parasite paradigm? which would explain the frustration expressed in the thread regarding the title "unbeliever"). Secondly, his whole life he had a philosophical view of God. He was never mad at God for not existing, that is an extremely absurd position to take. He simply believed that nature was it. He examined the issue (no need to be religiously interested) and came to his own conclusion. That position changed over time through various philosphical and literary readings, and discussions with fellow theists. If you read his autobio. you'll see that he accepted his conclusion of a God kicking and screaming, because it was the only rational conclusion he could come to. (could not explain reason through empiricism and skepticism) Later he accepted the Christian God.
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Old 04-10-2001, 06:05 PM   #23
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Layman:
While I recognize what an asset I would be to the Atheist community, and appreciate the celebration such an event would induce among skeptics world wide, I must confess that I lack sufficient faith to be an atheist. </font>
Yes, you would be an asset. You're intelligent, earnest, smart, patient, understanding, wise and tolerant. Already, you're one of us at heart. Why not come on over? I promise we won't crow for the first month or two!

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Old 04-11-2001, 08:01 AM   #24
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I have read both books and although they may not be the answer for every skeptic or answer all the questions , it does show that christianity is a 'rational belief' in spite of the lies, half truths, intentional misinterpretations and even good ol' honest problems with the Bible. I think if skeptics could listen to the debates from William Lane Craig or Gary Habermas, they would see logic and reasoning can convince atheist of God's existence. Assuming someone is dumb because they have accepted christianity is just a cop out for the skeptics and shows their insecurities in their own beliefs.
 
Old 04-11-2001, 03:59 PM   #25
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Earl Doherty has several book reviews on his website and he's now finishing work on part 3 of his review of The Case for Christ by Strobel. Doherty wrote The Jesus Puzzle--Did Christianity begin with a mythical Christ?


http://www.magi.com/~oblio/jesus/StrobelIntro.htm

 
Old 04-12-2001, 01:48 AM   #26
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Zoroaster:
Nobody has ever been convinced that Christianity is true based on objective evidence. If you say you have been, then you are a liar, because there is no evidence. And you know it.
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And I can use one of your lines here--prove it! :] I don't know what evidence compelled them & so I ask how you know this. From my perspective, it involves reading their minds... or at least their books. I've seen no evidence of either from you yet. Please provide it.
 
Old 04-12-2001, 11:13 AM   #27
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Photocrat:
And I can use one of your lines here--prove it! :] I don't know what evidence compelled them & so I ask how you know this. From my perspective, it involves reading their minds... or at least their books. I've seen no evidence of either from you yet. Please provide it.</font>
I for one, am interested in the difference between "objective evidence" and "subjective evidence."
 
Old 04-12-2001, 11:25 AM   #28
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Layman:
I for one, am interested in the difference between "objective evidence" and "subjective evidence." </font>
Objective evidence=observations, e.g., "The earth is spherically shaped based on observations made from outer space."

Subjective evidence=feelings, e.g., "I feel that the Bible is correct when it says that the earth has 'four corners.'"

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