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05-30-2001, 12:09 AM

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by aikido7:
[B] [b]"Whatever floats your boat man?" "Whatever floats your boat man?"

THANKS FOR TREATING ME WITH THE RESPECT AND DIGNITY WE ALL DESERVE--NOT!!!
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Do you think you're reading a little too much into the phrase "whatever floats your boat"?

05-30-2001, 05:45 AM

aikido: "Whatever floats your boat man?" "Whatever floats your boat man?"

THANKS FOR TREATING ME WITH THE RESPECT AND DIGNITY WE ALL DESERVE--NOT!!!

You are becoming prosaically transparent to me. Behind most of your questions lie statements you fail to recognize or are afraid to claim. You seem to call for more and more "belief" in a Jesus enshrined in ritual and dogma rather than demonstrating any Christian/religious transformation process in your posts.

...Then again, I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.

SWL: I think you're a bit paranoid, aikido. I don't care if you're an atheist, an agnostic, a Buddhist, whatever. I'm here to discuss Biblical Criticism and Archaeology. I didn't ask you to share any of my beliefs - all I ask is that you try to respect our differences.

SecWebLurker

05-30-2001, 08:51 AM

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by aikido7:
Thanks for your post and understanding, Metacrock, although I never went to a seminary! Much less a "liberal" one! Maybe the next lifetime I'll have a spare few years or so!

I think the reason most of the posters on this board spout the buzz words and wander far from the domain of good scholarship is that most are like ants crawling across the canvas of Picasso's "Guernica." They can sense a succession of changes of color, but cannot see the whole painting. That whole vision is provided by our prophets, artists and poets--people we are conditioned not to take too seriously in our culture. And prophets and artists always use the language of myth and parable and metaphor to communicate that vision.

Most evangelicals and fundamentalists--like most of Americans-- are technically literate, but they read with inattention and to merely confirm their own prejudices (the only way I recognize this is because I have to struggle against the same tendency in myself!). One reason there is such a disconnect between myself and others on this board could be because in ten years I will be seventy! And I hope I will remember your post 10 years from now! Yikes!

You may attribute this to my senility, but I really don't think these posters are "silly" or immersed in immature "rad lib" stuff. Most have their hearts in the right place--they're doing the best they can with the information and beliefs they have been raised with...

Anyway, thanks again! It's a lovely spring rain reading a post like yours!

aikido7 (James W.)

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Woe! So went to school in the days when they actually tuaght things in school! wow! I say that serioiusly. I worked as a substitute in public highschool for a couple of years to pay for Grad. school. and the watch word was "Don't do any teaching now." From what I saw no one else did either.

Well I don't mean to be so down on everybody. They aren't bad people, for the most part. And yes, this country is pathetically deprived of any real education, but overly triened in technical matters such that this is almost all people trust. But its odd because textual criticism is a technical matter, and yet they don't really trust that.

I blame the chruches for much of the problem. They try to maintian the divide between cleargy and laity and do nothing to promote a theoloigcal education. I dont' know what happenes to them. In seminary they are really eagar and want to teach all they have learned. Most of them start out with the assumption that after a couple of years under their training they will have a theologially literate congregation. than after a few years of scrubing toilets and arranging chairs and setting up community bake sales that is all gone and they don't remember what they learned in seminary either.

Hey I'm over 40 and I'm very much aware of the differnce in the world I was born into and the one that exists now. Like another planet, it really is. In so many ways. The way people thought, the mannerisms, they outlook, the background knowlede and the assumptions. And it's not all for the worse, some assumptions that most people made in the world I was born into are better left behind.

I espeicially like what you say about the artist and the visionary! Brovo!

Thanks for that post!

I hope you had a good life, it was clealry a thoughtful life, I hope you continue to have one I hope you do look back on this post 10 years form now! I'm sure you will, and I hope that you enjoy every moment in between taht time and beyond.

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05-30-2001, 05:45 AM	#32
Guest Posts: n/a	aikido: "Whatever floats your boat man?" "Whatever floats your boat man?" THANKS FOR TREATING ME WITH THE RESPECT AND DIGNITY WE ALL DESERVE--NOT!!! You are becoming prosaically transparent to me. Behind most of your questions lie statements you fail to recognize or are afraid to claim. You seem to call for more and more "belief" in a Jesus enshrined in ritual and dogma rather than demonstrating any Christian/religious transformation process in your posts. ...Then again, I could be wrong. It wouldn't be the first time. SWL: I think you're a bit paranoid, aikido. I don't care if you're an atheist, an agnostic, a Buddhist, whatever. I'm here to discuss Biblical Criticism and Archaeology. I didn't ask you to share any of my beliefs - all I ask is that you try to respect our differences. SecWebLurker

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