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Old 04-28-2001, 05:35 PM   #1
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Talking Calvin vs. Copernicus

In the process of resurrecting the "Quote of the Minute" feature, one of the first quotes that popped up was this gem:
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">"Who will venture to place the authority of Copernicus above that of the Holy Spirit?" [John Calvin, citing Ps. 93:1 in his Commentary on Genesis] </font>
I guess that the Holy Spirit lost this one in extra innings.

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Old 04-28-2001, 06:12 PM   #2
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"To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin." –Cardinal Bellarmine (vs Galileo)

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Old 04-28-2001, 07:37 PM   #3
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Faith, n. Belief without evidence in what is told by one who speaks without knowledge, of things without parallel. Ambrose Bierce

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Old 04-29-2001, 09:08 AM   #4
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Here's some quotes about faith, from

http://www.freespeech.org/rationalth...ith_blinds.htm


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"Faith is the great cop-out, the great excuse to evade the need to think and evaluate evidence. Faith is belief in spite of, even perhaps because of, the lack of evidence."

- Richard Dawkins
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We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides.

-St. Ignatius Loyola (1500)
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Whoever wishes to be a Christian, let him pluck out the eyes of his reason.

-Martin Luther (First Psalm Lectures, Luther's Works, Vol. 11, p.285)
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Christ wants to slay reason and subdue the arrogance of the Jews...

-Martin Luther (Sermons on the Gospel of St. John, Luther's Works, V.22, p.320)
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Whoever wants to be a Christian must be intent on silencing the voice of reason.

-Martin Luther (Sermons on the Gospel of St. John, Luther's Works, V.23, p. 99)
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If the bible had said that Jonah swallowed the whale, I would believe it.

­William Jennings Bryan
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Evolution is a bankrupt speculative philosophy, not a scientific fact. Only a spiritually bankrupt society could ever believe it. ... Only atheists could accept this Satanic theory.

-Jimmy Swaggart (former pop preacher)
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Sickness and disease will be a part of life of this planet until Jesus comes back.

-Pat Robertson (Answers to 200 of Life's most Probing Questions, Bantom Books, 1984)
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The imagination of man's heart is evil from his youth.

-Pat Robertson (Answers to 200 of Life's most Probing Questions, Bantom Books, 1984)
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If you go all the way back to the days just following creation, men lived nine hundred years or more.

-Pat Robertson (Answers to 200 of Life's most Probing Questions, Bantom Books, 1984)
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He [Jesus] had the ability to walk through doors, to travel vast distances in an instant, and to ascent into heaven.

-Pat Robertson (Answers to 200 of Life's most Probing Questions, Bantom Books, 1984)
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Therefore the spiritual standard for America would be the gospel of Jesus and everything in the Old and New Testaments.

-Pat Robertson (Answers to 200 of Life's most Probing Questions, Bantom Books, 1984)
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You say what's going to happen on this earth when the Rapture occurs? You'll be riding along in an automobile; you'll be the driver, perhaps; you're a Christian; there'll be several people in the automobile with you, maybe someone who is not a Christian. When the trumpet sounds, you and the other born-again Christians in that automobile will be instantly caught away, you'll disappear, leaving behind your clothing and physical things that cannot inherit eternal life. That unsaved person or persons in the automobile will suddenly be startled to find that the car is moving along without a driver, and suddenly somewhere crashes. Those saved people in the car have disappeared.

-Rev. Jerry Falwell (broadcast excerpt on National Public Radio cassette Ronald Reagan and the Prophecy of Armageddon by Joe Cuomo.)
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The Bible tells us that the unbelievers will go into endless punishment.

-D. James Kennedy (Why I Believe, World Publishing, 1980)
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Old 04-29-2001, 03:09 PM   #5
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I'm impressed by the Martin Luther quotes. I'd know about the anti-semitism, but hadn't been aware of the fierce tirades against reason. It is particularly odd in light of the fact that the reformation was in many respects a logical argument against Catholicism.
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I'm impressed by the Martin Luther quotes. I'd know about the anti-semitism, but hadn't been aware of the fierce tirades against reason. It is particularly odd in light of the fact that the reformation was in many respects a logical argument against Catholicism.</font>
Reaction against Catholic scholaticism....

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